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Subject:   Re: Re: Re: Ghost in the machine
Name:   James G
Date Posted:   Mar 15, 06 - 11:07 PM
Message:   I've probably come across as more negative than I intended,
and perhaps wasn't entirely clear.
I agree that emergent complexity
can explain a lot about the mind.
And I wish that everyone who theorised about the mind
would read about the brain.

Emergent complexity (from neurons) cannot, however,
tell us why emotions _feel_ the way they do
(when I talked about emotions in my previous message,
this is what I meant).
There is something missing here.

Neither complexity nor chaos are very new ideas,
although the study of both has benefited much
from the relatively recent arrival of computers.

The sea is indeed less complex and more chaotic
than the brain.
But if I'd chosen an analogy that was too complex,
then it would have been difficult
to give an explained example for some behaviour it exhibited.

The sea is still a relatively complex system.
It is certainly more complex than the mandelbrot set
patterns that people often associate with chaos theory.
Part of what is facinating about these things
is that the mathematics is exceeding simple.

And the chaotic aspect of the sea
doesn't really apply too much to crashing waves.
So I think the analogy is sufficient.
   


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