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Subject:   That... is why you fail
Name:   akg41470
Date Posted:   Feb 26, 08 - 8:32 AM
IP Address:   75.72.23.70
Email:   eolcott@triplo.com
Message:   "I'm not the least bit interested in your philosophical arguments"

In the words of Yoda: "That... is why you fail."

"If you would care to cite some scientific facts to substantiate your arguments, go ahead. If not, we'll wait for someone that can make a better go of it."

You can't expect me to respond to your challenges with negative arguments (i.e. "it is NOT this" and "it is not NECESSARILY that") and expect those to be corroborated with evidence. It's that there is NO evidence that it works in the way you describe or expect it to that points to the converse argument.

It also seems like you are expecting to hear about the number of the genes that changed, which ones they are, exactly when and in what animal, and where geographically that happened as an answer from me or anybody. I'm telling you, that's not going to happen now or anytime soon.

It's like both of us looking at a snow bank - you ask "tell me how did that snow get there". I explain about how snow forms and the wind and simple land formations, and you expect me to count the number of snowflakes and tell you how each one got there, and if I can't, then that snowbank was put there by magic. It just can't be done that way, there's too much information. You have to think more abstractly.

The cool thing is that with the knowledge of the PRINCIPLES involved (wind, snow, land formations) you can EXPECT a snow bank to turn up in any particular position with the given weather. It's the power of PREDICTION, and it can turn out to be right every time - not to mention, a pretty darn good EXPLANATION.

Evolution works in a very similar way. Even BETTER thing is that the more we learn about it, the more we find out about "different kinds of snowflakes" and "how many move in groups" given the kind of wind, etc etc. We're getting closer to all the details, but you have to understand what kind of question you're asking before you dismiss the entire ToE. You can't expect anyone to give the details you're asking for, they're just not known. However, be it known that it does NOTHING to belittle the ToE as it works and as it is SEEN to work in the real world.

"By the way, when the squirrels 'evolve' into something else, let us know"

Sure, no problem. Might take awhile and I don't think you'll be around for it (neither will I), and it may or may not even happen.
Replies:    
Predictions of evolution don't produce reality by who is your creator · Feb 26, 08 - 12:06 PM
Misconceptions and bad quotes by akg41470 · Feb 26, 08 - 10:21 PM
We are thrilled to have you on our side! by who is your creator · Feb 27, 08 - 12:44 PM
"side"? "blunder"? by akg41470 · Feb 27, 08 - 5:04 PM
Abiogenesis? by whoisyourcreator · Feb 28, 08 - 11:22 AM
Re: Abiogenesis? by akg41470 · Feb 28, 08 - 8:00 PM
That is why it's your faith, not science by whoisyourcreator · Feb 29, 08 - 8:06 AM
Re: Metabolic change = Convergent evolution? by akg41470 · Feb 25, 08 - 3:49 PM
Re: Convergent Evolution - what's to debate? by Joe · Mar 26, 08 - 5:40 PM
The 3 mutations by akg41470 · Mar 26, 08 - 10:57 PM
Would you like to explain this? by whoisyourcreator · Apr 1, 08 - 6:53 AM
Re: The 3 mutations by Joe W. · May 2, 08 - 2:44 PM


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