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Subject:   Misconceptions and bad quotes
Name:   akg41470
Date Posted:   Feb 26, 08 - 10:21 PM
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Message:   "Principles:
All matter and life"

Sorry, that's not what a principle is. A principle is a proposition or rule, not the subjects of the rules.

"Prediction:
All matter and life was created through random events without any supernatural means."

Also no. Evolution says nothing about the creation of matter or of life. The ToE explains the speciation of organisms through a branching process using mutation and natural selection. However, you are correct in that it does not need supernatural intervention.

"1. The creation of the universe (cosmology) is now off limits because evolutionists claim that it has nothing to do with evolution"

Evolution NEVER WAS about cosmology.

"2. The creation of life (abiogenesis) is also off limits because evolutionists claim that it has nothing to do with evolution"

Evolution NEVER WAS about abiogenesis. To say it has NOTHING to do with evolution is a bit harsh, though, because it does to some degree. However, that concept is not covered by the ToE.

"3. The creation of novel or more complex traits in organisms (macroevolution) cannot be explained or proven because evolutionists don't know how it works"

Utterly false statement. It's been explained to you MANY times how it works, but you refuse to accept it.

None of the quotes you gave give any indication that there is a PROBLEM with evolution, simply that there is more research to be done and that there is much more to contribute - NOT that it "doesn't work". Read these quotes more carefully.

"5. Even evolutionists now doubt the 'randomness' of their own theory:

"In a Feb. 17, 2008 symposium at the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) annual meeting in Boston,* Miller will argue that science itself, including evolutionary biology, is predicated on the idea of "design" -- the correlation of structure with function that lies at heart of the molecular nature of life.""

THIS quote has NOTHING to do with the belief or disbelief in "randomness", rather the usage of the word "design" in explaining evolutionary concepts to people - to "take back" the word, so to speak, from the ID community, since apparently THEY'RE not using it...
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We are thrilled to have you on our side! by who is your creator · Feb 27, 08 - 12:44 PM
"side"? "blunder"? by akg41470 · Feb 27, 08 - 5:04 PM
Abiogenesis? by whoisyourcreator · Feb 28, 08 - 11:22 AM
Re: Abiogenesis? by akg41470 · Feb 28, 08 - 8:00 PM
That is why it's your faith, not science by whoisyourcreator · Feb 29, 08 - 8:06 AM
Re: I'll wait for a more worthy opponent by you don't need it · Jul 26, 08 - 12:52 AM
Re: Metabolic change = Convergent evolution? by akg41470 · Feb 25, 08 - 3:49 PM
Re: Convergent Evolution - what's to debate? by Joe · Mar 26, 08 - 5:40 PM
The 3 mutations by akg41470 · Mar 26, 08 - 10:57 PM
Would you like to explain this? by whoisyourcreator · Apr 1, 08 - 6:53 AM
Re: The 3 mutations by Joe W. · May 2, 08 - 2:44 PM


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