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Hi all, this is my first post on this forum; I am a long time Roxy fan and just recently bought the BF albums 'in your mind' and 'let's stick together' on CD
(I previously had them on vinyl only). Listening to both again after such a long time it struck me just how good these albums actually are, particularly IYM (in my opinion anyway); some really strong songs on there and 'love me madly again' in particular very Roxy-esque. LST very good also and it was great to hear that version of 2HB again (I think it was the b-side to 'a hard rain's a gonna fall' single). I noticed in the sleeve notes that the guitar part in 'sea breezes' is credited to none other than David o'List. This is where the question for Paul comes in! Was that guitar part recorded when D o'L was originally with Roxy and then used later on this album or was he actually there in person? I hope you don't mind me asking, it's probably one of those things which could be filed under 'useless information' but never the less remain objects of curiosity for saddos' like me!
welcome to the forum !
I think those parts would have been recorded when the tracks were recorded !
p.s. I said that DOL was credited for the guitar in 'sea breezes', I meant to say 'chance meeting'; my mistake.
Roy, go to this page:
Then find March 1974, your answer is there.
John, many thanks, that's a cracking website! I have added it to my favourites; rest assured I will check it out in depth when time allows. Cheers.
Roy, Great to see you here. In Your Mind is the best Ferry solo Album recording ever, bar none. It's Roxy Music without Andy Mackay, and probably better for that.
Just curious Gerry, why do you say that about Andy and IYM? I always thought Flesh and Blood and Avalon would have been better Ferry solo albums if they not only had Paul but Andy as well!
Gerry, cheers for the welcome. I hadn't considered the 'no AM' factor before regarding IYM but I would agree that it is BF's best solo album. I think the fact that it was full of original compositions (and good ones at that) probably had quite a lot to do with it, for me anyway. While I did like the previous 2 solo albums, I would have preferred original songs with maybe one or 2 cover versions.
Well perhaps his best ever album ever - bar Frantic, Olympia, or These Foolish Things perhaps. Regarding the Mackay comment; were you at the bar when you wrote it? haha :-)
Am I in the minority who see In Your Mind as their least favourite BF album. (Note I say least favourite and not worse)
I feel that album could have been recorded by anyone whereas most BF original material outside Roxy has a sound to it that you know it was written/produced by Ferry. Take Bryan's voice off IYM and and you don't know it's a BF album. Take Bryan's voice off Boys & Girls, Bete Noire, Mamouna and even Taxi you still know it is a BF album.
I think the song writing on In Your Mind is more straigt forward in terms of chord structures etc and the arrangements are a bit session musicianish. There is no real experimentation except for say the pre intro to Rock Of Ages
Like I said it is my least favourite meaning I like it less than the other albums. I wish he would do This Is Tomorrow live while he has Spedding on this tour. Love Me Madly is the standout for me but Party Doll, All Night Operator and One Kiss do nothing for me. They are so 'unFerry'
I played Olympia for the first time in 2011 the other day and I only like about 3-4 songs. I enjoyed listening to it but it could be a while before I play it again but when I am ready to play it again I am sure I will enjoy it
John, after reading your post yesterday I went home after work and put the IYM album on again, and.....
I still think it's a great album! It is a different style to his other works as you say but for me it really rocks! I agree with you that 'love me madly' is the pick of the bunch and i also think 'Tokyo Joe' is a stormer. I tend to think that some of BF's later works were maybe a bit over-produced for my liking but that's just my opinion, others will surely disagree.
I did buy 'olympia' and my thoughts are pretty much identical to yours, 3 or 4 good songs, others ok, play it once every couple of months or so.
On another note, have you ever heard the song 'Bloody Kisses' (a death in the family) by Type O Negative?
To my ears there are defintely shades of Roxy in there. If you like 'In every dreamhome' and Bitter sweet' (2 of my faves) then you may well like it. The song is on youtube if you want to check it out.
I think he was trying to crack Amerca (again !)when he recorded IYM.I got the impression he was writing more straight forward radio friendly songs and got rid of all the experimental stuff. It has a Talking Heads, punchy sound to it rather than a Bryan sound. But I still lkie it. Although none of the songs came over too well live. Dunno why. Tomorrow, Tokyo, Love Me Madly, In Your Mind are great songs. The rest are Okish. But thats fairly normal for me with Bryan and Roxy albums. I normally love half, dislike 2 or 3 and the rest are OK. Same goes for Olympia. I love the slower songs, and the rest I'm not too fussed about.