WiYC:
"Why is this so difficult for you?"

It has not been difficult at all to show that macroevolutionary change has occurred in these birds. It is more your difficulty in accepting the truth that is the problem.

"Surely you could come up with something that actually evolved into something other than another specie of that parent kind."

The Darwin's finches have recently been classified as
incertae sedis at the family level. They are currently classifed as four different genera: Geospiza, Camarhynchus, Certhidea, and Pinaroloxias. There are fourteen species with at least one sub-species. Evolution proceeds by speciation. When speciation continues whole groups of species and subspecies are produced. All of these are produced from the original species and the ensuing varition and selection. This is how evolution is supposed to work and these birds confirm it beautifully.

WiYC said:
"As far as the quote, why would we take it out if it's true, it's what they meant, thus taken completely IN context?"

Let's start with your inaccurate lead in for that quote.

"Some Evolutionists do acknowledge that the fossil record is a disaster for their theory so they just go on to more interesting ways to deny the truth:"

I didn't see anything in the AAAS benchmarks that claimed that the fossil record is "a disaster" for the theory of evolution. In fact, the quote (and what follows the quote) only talks about how to help students with their difficulty in understanding evolution. As the others have indicated, your very selective quote misrepresents both the position of the AAAS. The standards indicate accurately that the fossil record supports evolution. Your quote makes it seem that scientists and AAAS think otherwise. This clearly is not the case.

To assume that you accurately reflect the context of the quote is another stretch on your part. The standards here are talking about a hypothetical student asking a question. The question betrays a lack of understanding about the nature of the fossil record, that the record by now should be complete. You consistently betray the same misunderstanding. You rely on this misunderstanding to insist that there is no evidence for evolution in the fossil record. This simply is not true. When repeatedly asked for a creationist explanation for the fossil record, you change the subject or simply don't answer.

'Interesting that you whine so much about quotes when you could just shut us up with some proof ...

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WiYC said:
"As far as the quote, why would we take it out if it's true, it's what they meant, thus taken completely IN context?"

Let's start with your inaccurate lead in for that quote.

"Some Evolutionists do acknowledge that the fossil record is a disaster for their theory so they just go on to more interesting ways to deny the truth:"

I didn't see anything in the AAAS benchmarks that claimed that the fossil record is "a disaster" for the theory of evolution. In fact, the quote (and what follows the quote) only talks about how to help students with their difficulty in understanding evolution. As the others have indicated, your very selective quote misrepresents both the position of the AAAS. The standards indicate accurately that the fossil record supports evolution. Your quote makes it seem that scientists and AAAS think otherwise. This clearly is not the case.

To assume that you accurately reflect the context of the quote is another stretch on your part. The standards here are talking about a hypothetical student asking a question. The question betrays a lack of understanding about the nature of the fossil record, that the record by now should be complete. You consistently betray the same misunderstanding. You rely on this misunderstanding to insist that there is no evidence for evolution in the fossil record. This simply is not true. When repeatedly asked for a creationist explanation for the fossil record, you change the subject or simply don't answer.

WiYC said:
"Interesting that you whine so much about quotes when you could just shut us up with some proof ..."

We have provided evidence in the fossil record, genetics, comparative anatomy of related species, the timing of species in the fossil record, etc. You have ignored the evidence, changed the subject, or dropped the debate altogether. Most recently, you have used the excuse of someone posting under your name to shut down your playground and delete valid posts.

It is not whining to expect you to use sources honestly. I keep calling you on it because you continue to misrepresent the authors. We can certainly engage in intelligent debate, but it is up to you to decide whether that is important to you.