DJ, on the average, I bring out about from 7 to 10 whole points per session. It can vary where hearths are present. I've hit several good caches of points, most of which have been within 2 feet of the back walls. I usually get a point every 3rd screen shake, or at least a broken piece. Broken pieces still well exceed whole ones, even in the cave. The cave has been an exceptionally good site for Frios,Sabinals,Split Base Ensor,Martindales & Bandy, and Pandales( super high quality).