The second one reminds me of turkey tail very common in the great lakes region up north ohio way hopewell people used them alot. But my memory may be dazed and confused its already Friday
Nice finds All i have been finding has been bird point and scrapers nothing With size any more.
Well, the re-curved base is supposed to be one of the most determing factors....so I bet it's a Gahagan. Maybe The other point might be something like a Dawson but I'm just tossing that out there, as I haven't cracked the Overstreet to verify yet.
Mike should toss his thoughts out here also, so that maybe a consensus can be reached.