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Is it limestone???
WOW!!!! Whata a great piece of history!!!! I think that the gorgets and beads are ALOT more personal than the points!!!
I haven't cleaned it up. I'm actually reluctant to. I may leave it pristine. When I get a chance I'll try to get some more hi-res pics. I'm fairly certain it is shell. I have counted around 15 tiny hole drilled into it so far. They are filled with dirt so they are hard to see.
I was glad I got to see that super find.Man you should seen everyone after you left we were all elbow to elbow were you left off.
Beautiful Conch shell gorget! I am envious~~~~
Did anybody else find anything in that area? I would have stayed longer if I didn't have to drive back to Ft. Worth. My partner and I spent most of two days in that area and didn't find anything but a few worked down Nolans and Lajitas.
It is a gorget, not a pendant. I've never found one but I've read a lot about them in the last 24 hours. Gorgets were worn around the neck. Kind of symbolic armor to protect the throat. The word comes from Latin or French or something that translates from the word "throat." Lots of people call anything with a drilled hole a gorget but most pieces are pendants.
Here is a pic someone posted recently that shows how it is worn:
Looks like he has "Mr Bill" on his tummy. I wonder if SNL paid the royalties to that Indians family ?
All I found was a few wingless pooters.I think someone found a nice blade that was broke up I don't if it was all their or not.
I cleaned it up last night. Up close it does appear to have a pattern or grain to it like you'd expect with a shell. Also, many of the tiny holes in it appear to be natural rather than drilled which is a bummer. I took a ton of photos and put them in a slide show:
I was curious about the value. I'm not selling it, I'm just curious. It is probably the coolest thing I've found so far in Texas. I found three diferent ones for sale on the internet. They were $1800, $3900, and $6500. The $6500 one had an engraving of some sort on it. That was really why I cleaned mine up. Unfortunately, there are no drawings or designs.
Good show again. Your price research answers Mlle's question of roughly " how much are these things worth ?" Even sight unseen of your examples, sounds expensive.
MY first reaction was . . . OH NO. . . !
When the THOUSANDS of almighty dollars are involved, "professional" flint counterfeiters will jump for their Dremel tools.
We can see your dug find Mo, but no goodnicks will be finding anything flat, put a few holes [ not clean drilled !] in it and there's a nice thousand bucks for a days work. . . and the market in general is degraded.
Good job on a light water rinse of the gorget, wish every gorget finder would do that !
There's no way I'm gonna sell it. I've already started designing a display case for it. I am planning on going to the Waxahachie show Saturday. I've never bought a COA before but if
Rogers is there I might do it.
I believe Mike Walker is correct in his call that the gorget is made from a conch shell, probably a large lightning welk common to the Texas bay system. A gorget made from a large lightning welk is the centerpiece of this collection and it exhibits the same characteristic concave and convex surfaces as Mojave's fine find. The welk gorget in the photo was found in a Chambers County Karankawa site in 1954.
That is one extremely fine gorget collections I've ever seen. Kudo's!
I found a broken gorget last week on the river. it has a face scratched into the stone which is pretty cool.
NO MATTE WHERE IT'S FROM LET'S SEE SOME PIC'S OF IT!
Most Exellent Finds Folks,............as I wipe the Drool off of my keyboard!!!
There is a place for you corpus folk to check after good pounding surf......About 100 yds ( maybe more havent been in years)down from bob hall pier to the right...Youll see the gravel and flint...I think there is also some old steel hull of a boat submerged there too....