Hello people Just wanted to test all those brilliant collectors minds out there tonight...Well it may be morning before anyone even looks :P...Im going to post 20 arrowheads and post them by number# answer back by saying which ones you think are fake *example* #1 fake #6 fake #14 fake and Ill grade you tomorrow night.....You really gotta bring you A game .... Heres the first #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 Ok those are the dove tail pics now for some paleo points #6 #7 #8 #9 #10 #11 #12 Now for the last few .... I hope im not making anyone sweat #13 #14 #15 #16 #17 #18 #19 #20 ................ Well goodluck findin any bad apples .... See if you can find the fakes respond by typing * example * # 1 fake #3 fake ect... Have fun

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I agree with Hal and Roy. I bet most if not all were made by the same guy. Was it you?

Oh, Hal has question marks so I guess I agree with Roy.

Those are all non-Texas points maybe except for a Paleo or two & we don't know those out-of-state styles. Which places us at a disadvantage in addition you have only 1 pic of each point & we don't have the opportunity to look at multiple views or to see them in person, plus 20 pic's is to many to start with... if you're going to learn us, smaller is better.

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Maybe you could do a point quiz of the day! With the answer the next day and a new point to fig out! Don't judge me by my answers just wanted to play. I only know its real if I dig it!

Hal I like your answer ...... You guys just have fun and dont worry if you right or wrong

I we were talking about boobs....I could help.

Help They have me held captive in a Sonoma region winery. All I see is oak barrels. Few months agoI was stuck in Lynchburg Virginia. That was rough.

Hey I hope yall had some fun looking and guessing at these points....These are all points that I recently big on during an auction ....The auction took place on march 1st in a live auction called bennetts artifact auction....They are out of ohio...They are AACA members and most of the artifacts came with COA'S and previous owners ( in case you wanted to wring their necks if you didnt like the point) They have a satisfaction gaurantee on all their products .....So if you dont like it send it back... I will post some of the coa's and alternate pics of the arrowheads......Soooooooo no fakes ....BTW you can look up what they sold for on liveauctioneers.com ....Well heres the pics .............. Well here some pics.....I may have double posted some or left out others all together ..... about 8 of the arrowheads had multiple COA'S a few didnt have any coa's but had location found and previous owners .... Goodnite

Well now, COA's make all the differnce ! They are gorgeous examples of their type. Good game Aaron, serious "is this authentic " pics are a lose lose topic !
Interesting That almost all the examples are such a bland white tone . . .dont they have any root beer
flavored points in Ohio ?

Do we assume none of your bids were high enough ?

Take a close look at those COAs. Here are a couple zooms on two Jackson COAs with signatures in red ink. They are identical. Either they were not both signed by a human hand or one/both are photoshopped. I've said it before, it is easier to fake a COA than it is to fake an artifact but people seem to believe in COAs even though the authenticators don't even typically keep records of what they issue so there is no way of disproving them.

SH ..I just downloaded these colored flints to throw yall off a bit......There were many good looking flint types ....go to the bennets auction.....ohhhhhh ps to other questions.......When i sign my name it is the same everytime too ( almost )

My point was,...they are obviously not signed. I superimposed the two images and saw they are identical down to where the "ink" crosses the line. If these are blank signed forms just printed out from a color printer, that begs a couple questions:
1. Wouldn't that naturally lend themselves to being easily counterfeitable, which would in turn make them less marketable?
2. Why would someone buy a "signed" COA that isn't really signed in person, I mean what's the point?
I checked the sigs on some of the others and they are not copies which leads me to believe they might be real. What I don't understand is why theses services don't keep copies in their own files, perhaps even available online, that people could check against to validate the authenticity. I know Rogers doesn't keep records. I've never bought a COA but I do know photoshop. I could take any of these, scan them, alter them, and make them say anything I want. It is an easy scam just waiting to happen. I would question any COA on something that was for sale.

You have good points mojave....There are some auctioneers that have strict coa rules .....There is one auction that i have bids in now that only go through certain authenticaters...That retain a copy of the artifact that you are buying .....Its a risk to buy anything online I guess......I would only deal with reputable dealers that have a great return policy or have a good track record......You just never know untill the points in your hand and then you still may not be for sure......Im gonna try and stick to diggin out myself .....I only bid low on points and artifacts so I can resell......Id never spend thousands of dollars on something unless I see it with my own eyes first and then I still wouldint spend that kind of money cuz I dont have it to begin with

sry Hal missed your question.....nope i bid on over 100 items and got beat out on every one ,,,, I was at work when they had the live bidding....I had to leave absentee bids.......Dont think I went over 50$ on anything.....Just trying to steal a bid or two ... Ive got a couple autions im bidding on in the next couple weeks hopefully I can get something.....I was looking through some bids from last years artifacts sales from one auctioneer and a clovis slipped through the crack at 50$ ..A real nice one too

Win some, lose some, or, is it better to have tried and lost. . .much better .
I may actually get into buying some points myself. My billion dollars from the government should be here
any day now and I always wanted a frame of some of the best reproductions [ and maybe a frame of dubious COA's would be very colorful ! ]

So even though Sam Williams is an authenticator, he's started a business where folks store their photo's & the data in electronic form. I assume that he might keep records of his authentication services but don't know for sure.
What does the Howdy Dowdy group feel about this type of service that is being sold regarding advantages & disadvantages?