WOW both very cool points, i love to see exotic points, maybe cause they're so rare. And the early triangle is very nice as well.

Yes, two unique finds, nice.
Small detail. . . On that excentric / practice piece, the identifiable base looks Perd {y} But the related barb is way too long, more like extreme Marshalls !
Someone in the Marshal family pickup a Perd and deceided to use it for practice ?

You stole my thunder SH, marshall was my fist thought. Still a very strange artifact.

it sure is a strange artifact,the midden we were digging is loaded with perds, we would unearth bout 4 perds to every one of another point type.Just curious, but what makes it a marshall and not a perd?

I think the point everyone is calling an early triangular is a kinney. The base is to curved to be early triangular. I may be wrong what do yall think

I thought Marshall at first, but after examining the pics more closely the point seems to have bifurcation flute on both sides, is it possible that a Marshall might have these as well?

nice finds, congrats

It just does not seem to match classic looks, maybe a third party, like a Castroville family member picked up a found point and was practicing.

Now that we're putting such extreme scrutiny on such a small piece. . . .The other end is starting to look like an "umbrella" drill. [ thats where there are 3 barbs with the center one being the longest ]
Hard to see in the pic if the tip is actually broken off or knapped that short.