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Hey yall....Found a few caves a few months ago, but was never able to get to em till today (the snow prevented any access near the area)..anyway, when i walked up on it i knew i was in for somethin good. The ceiling and walls are all burned up, flakes and bones laying everywhere. this was all just a few hours ago and it got dark on me pretty quick and could only dig for about an hour. In this first cave i felt confident it hadnt been dug up before, there were pretty clear layers i was digging through (about 2 feet deep is all i got down to)...found more flakes and a bunch of bones, ash, teeth etc (no points)...was hoping some of yall that are real familiar with bones and teeth could help ID them..
The second cave i found has clearly been dug, as someones bucket was still waiting down in the hole. he dug alot of ground inside, but left a huge shelf untouched at the entrance of the cave..this shelf reminds me of digging back in tx hillcountry, its loaded with burnt rock, ash, bone, flakes etc and is about 3 feet deep...only had a few minutes there b4 it got dark, found a scraper....will keep updating what i find in the next few weeks...thanks yall
The adventure continues ...we can just imagine some of the ancients attracted to those natural shelters
The same snows that kept you away might have kept them restricted to foraging very close to the shelter.
I'm not good on bone ID especially from pics...a few bigger pieces seem deer / antelope and that one mandible looks rodentlike from the front separate "gnawing" front teeth structure.
Personally, for an invite out there, I would be very pleased to let you and that trespass digger have the
entire interiors.....From the looks of the overall pic, the area just outside the shelters, and downslope is an absolute treasure trove possibility for artifacts...
Among the many reasons for better finds OUTSIDE of a small shelter ( less than 100' wide & 50' high )..that
fire smoke is a sure indicator of using a cooking fire to keep warm but how about those occasional really hot summer days...sit in the shade with a fire a bit farther out..
Tks for the show, good luck on upcomming expeditions
Thanks Hal, always appreciate your feedback....I definitely need to not overlook the exteriors, its just too tempting to not dig inside with all those flakes showing...im definitely gonna divide my time between the two...one thing i have to change for sure when i go back out is my structure and approach at digging this thing. I was all over the place at first, digging in random corners etc. until i started a somewhat organized lil test hole...gonna have to bring my sifter on this next round for sure...any ideas on how to approach digging this shelter is much appreciated.
I've never personally dug a cave but hope this helps... I spent some time in the ozarks and did alot of hunting there. Alot of caves on the misourri state line and met a lot of locals that collected. One of them engaged in a two hour conversation once about cave digging. He had said one cave he dug in he found nothing but bones, ash and flakes for several days. He didn't know what to think of it until someone that had a better knowledge of it said he was digging in the "trash pile". I guess a pile of bones, flakes, and debri. I'm sure every cave is different though. I dont know how accurate that is but hope it helps. Keep the pics coming and good luck to ya.
thanks digger...thats a great perspective..i was kinda thinking that in the beginning and thats why i started jumping around so much digging test holes and they all turn out the same...im thinkin i otta focus on the entrance and a few feet outside the cave as a real starting point sifting as deep as i can go and keep moving inch by inch to the back of the shelter...it seems logical, a good lil fire in the back of cave reflecting off all the walls would keep it nice and warm all the way to the outside, especially like Hal was sayin on warmer days, and im sure just a fire in there with no top vent would get pretty smokey....We'll see, thanks for the post, every point of view helps.
Dig outside the cave, maybe not right at the entrance but pretty close. I dug a killer shelter and the best stuff was in the flat area around the entrance. Walk out of the cave and look down for a nice chill spot. *****s probably chilled in the cave at night for protection, nice day your out on the lawn cooking and chipping. Good luck
rite on G-town...i appreciate it
that'll be my game plan for sure...im gonna try and go back out there tomorrow and see what i can scratch up, will post afterwards for sure, thanks yall... i heard yall are gettin some good rain back down in Texas, bet that flint is a shinning in the sun...........