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Fall Creek 11/25/12

I found a cool blade today and a beaver tooth. I have never found a beaver's tooth digging before.


Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Nice Chris! We're y'all hand digging?

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Nice finds..

I do believe that might be a very rare north Tx beavertail blade

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Nice finds! Very intresting base on the knife. I was reading an article in The University of Texas archives about animal bones that were found in campsites, and confirmed to be that of animals that no longer live in our area.The migration patterns have changed over the years due to climate change etc..

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Snapshot of the back side please.

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Travis, we were hand-digging. SH and RY, do you think this could be a Friday knife? Flintpig, I'll post a photo of the back side when I get home from work tonight.

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Hey Chris, I dont think it's a Friday blade,but I do think it's unusual. Hard to tell without seeing it, but it looks like the base was notched,unless it was unfinished. Because of the fine workmanship from the middle,to the tip it looks completed though.I do think it's a specific type because I'm holding its twin that I found in Burnet county as well.I will post a pic asap.

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Here is the back:



and the front:



Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

I dont care for Friday either. Just by rough triangluar shape maybe closer to a Gahagan which is listed in Dr H's book as being ranged in the NE TX.
Good worked flip side, rules out a big CF..
If all else fails...Put it in the bag with early Archaic blades.

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Thanks for the info SH!!! RY, I would like to see a pic of that blade you found as well!

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

A fluted Gahagan Biface ? Certainly unusual, and just as certainly, possible. The Friday blade is no more, tossed into the dust bin of discarded artifact typology; Finis

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Redman
The Friday blade is no more, tossed into the dust bin of discarded artifact typology; Finis


Red, I saw some of the excerpts by Dr H that completely disallowed the "Friday" designation but I must have missed the last page......Exactly what is the new name of this blade ?
I didn't exactly comprehend the reasoning. At least in the Eastern part of the hill country the best example of the blade in question is very prominently the shape of a small runabout boat at the waterline including a
square to slightly concave stern. Flaking quality can be from superb to "not bad" They are not rare, everybody has got at least one and they are very distinctive / not to be confused with any other piece of that length...

There is no picture of it under ANY name in the newest STONE ARTIFACTS book.
That doesn't seem fair, even the humble Corner tang blade has a name even though I always hear serious professional amateur diggers saying ;
" if we find Marcos points there will be CT's "......"if we find Castroville points there will be CT's "......."if we find Ensors there will be CT's "
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Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

I need to get Dr H's new book to keep up with the new typologies.

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Good question SH. There are a number of blade types that are not or no longer included in the new Turner & Hester book. Fridays, Covingtons, Hare Bi-faces, Mineral Springs, Darl Blades, San Gabriels, Agate Basins and Hell Gaps. The best we can do is reclassify them based on where they were found and whats supposed to be here. I think a lot of what I've called Fridays, Darl Blades and Mineral Springs are actually Gahagan Bifaces . Covingtons, San Gabriels and Hare Bi-faces could just be preforms.

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

I am not convinced that Covington and San Gabriel are pre-forms. I will have to get the book. Good post.

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Old habits are hard to break ( as opposed to "cant teach old collectors new ways " )
Just Archaic blades suits me but I can see where until some new designations are actually in the books, people will be refering to blades as "just
LOOKING like what USED to be " Friday, San Gabriel & Covingtons "

My better Archaic blades;

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My Motorboat blade right in the middle...Thin, super good quality flaking

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Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Nice show! The middle one,and one to the immediate left resemble the cache of three blades I found on Brushy Creek in Cedar Park.

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

Yeah, I like that . "It ain't a Friday, it just looks like one". Very nice assortment of Texas Blades.

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

I like Archaic blade. Just sayin...

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

I like Archaic blade. Just sayin...

Re: Fall Creek 11/25/12

That's a nice collection of blades Hal!