I wonder if this might be a McGloin birdpoint, as it sure look's a lot like a few of the examples in Hester's new book? Middle top of photo for McTGloin.
Is the one below it a padre made out of what? It seems much to red to be alibates & is it Jasper?
Also, I bought an Eagle Lake newly typed point from Bill Arnold & I wonder who typed this point & what it's charaistic's are?