Well I don't believe the ford is still there since I grew up in O.C. and never seen a junked ford south of the cc??? Maybe u can show me???? Huh SH? I'm really not into this secretive part of my newfound hobby...??? But thanks for the reply could u restate where the "holy city" is or was ... But I. Extremely interested in this junked ford on top of a midden NEVER SEEN IT.... I've scouted those woods for 15+ years...interesting SH ... INTERESTED YES I AM

Lets see how you make out with the expert, JW, at the show Saturday. Whether your there or not I'll be talking to him and tell him your looking for him.

He knows where to find me ask his daughter but yes I do plan on doing some talking w/ JW at the show SH.....I'll seen what I can pick out ta him this time....

Hey SH there is plentry of gravel and palm sized rocks ALL around my area of the creek.. There is a very sharp turn in the creek w/very high sandy embankment then a lot of sandbars before and after with ALOT if OLD willow trees around.. There does happen to be a lot of holes that are VERY WIDE buy fairly shallow....re:SH..LOL. ..MY ADDRESS IS SHINNE**** HILLS RD IF U WANNA GOOGLE MAP IT AND SEE IF YOU STROLLED AROUND THAT AREA OR PERHAPS ARE INTERESTED IN TAKING A HIKE THrU THAT AREA I CALL MY "PART" OF THE CREEK

Look for feeder creeks that join the main stream....