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to Elena

Hi Elena

I'm not the webmaster of this site anymore but seeing I've been a webmaster for 11 years and learned a few things along the way, there's some stuff I wanted to share with you regarding internet etiquette (so called "netiquette"). Here are a few tips you might find useful as owner of a webpage or forum:

1. UNAPPROVED ADVERTISING
It's considered unpolite to advertise your own webpage/forum on someone elses webpage/forum without first having asked permission, especially if your page is about the same topic. Think about it... why should the webmasters of this site pay for promoting yours? This is also written about in the forum guidelines (click link on top of this forum). The best way is to contact the webmasters and ask permission, or contact your friends privately and inform them of your page. And considering the intent of which your forum was set up (in conflict with current webmasters), the above netiquette applies even more.

2. COPYING LAYOUT
When setting up a webpage or forum it's a good idea to choose your own colors and graphics to distinguish it from other websites or forums.
Unless you have permission, don't use a site header from another website. If you want to link to a site there are ususally banners and buttons for that purpose. It's also a bad idea to copy someone else in regards to colors and background graphic. Copying someone elses layout gives the impression that your page is part of the site you are copying - in this case DUF. Also, original graphics on a website are copyrighted the site owners or the original creators.

3. COPYING FORUM POSTS
Never copy posts from other forums unless you have permission from the authors. Hopefully you did get permission - if so, it's all good.

4. OVERALL IMPRESSON and EXPRESSION
If you want to stay friends with a site, it's a good idea to not use a mocking or sarcastic tone about that site and its members on your site - for instance like suggesting that you are "grown-ups" and "true fans" on your forum (that is understod as we are not grown-ups or true fans on this forum). Please also read my last paragraph about language.

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Lastly, I wanted to comment on what made you set up your forum in the first place. Seems it is unclear to you (and perhaps others too) why the DUF owners put a stop to AGOS critic posts made by a few members, or as you call it "muted" you (which is a sarcastic way of putting it, btw).

No one is forbidden to critique RDJ movies on this board, no one has ever been forced to love all his projects and have always been free to express that in a respectful manor. The thing the webmasters objected to was the constant repeat of the critisism and in the harsh way it was sometimes expressed. Like so many before me have already said, we heard you the first time so there's no need to say it again every time someone says they liked the movie. By doing so, it can be seen as being argumentative as opposed to just sharing your (respectful) point of view. See?

I suspect, in all of this, there's also a bit of a problem with language and how we express ourselves. Personally, I sometimes find it hard to understand you and might misunderstand from time to time. When I read some of your posts I detect a mocking tone - meaning your words in themselves are polite but the way they are expressed suggests something else. Maybe you don't mean it that way and it is all due to problems with the English language. Considering this forum has members of so many nationalities, it's bound to be misunderstandings.

Best of luck with your forum!

Country Sweden

Age (opt) 50

Re: to Elena

I am sorry, your post is surely very good but too long for me, considering my language problems. So I thank you for trying to help. But we'd come to agreement already. All right.

Country Russia

Age (opt) almost 44

Re: to Elena

(Translated with an online translation service so please be aware that it may contain errors.)

Привет Елена

Я не webmaster этого места больше, но наблюдения, я был webmaster в течение 11 лет и узнавал несколько вещей по пути, есть некоторый материал, который я хотел разделить с Вами относительно интернет-этикета (так называемый "netiquette"). Вот - несколько советов, которые Вы могли бы найти полезным как владелец webpage или форума:

1. НЕУТВЕРЖДЕННОЕ РЕКЛАМИРОВАНИЕ
Это сочло невежливым рекламировать ваш собственный webpage/forum на ком - то elses webpage/forum не сначала спросив разрешение, особенно если ваша страница - приблизительно такой же тема. Думайте об этом ..., почему должен webmasters этой платы места за то, чтобы содействовать ваш? Это также написано о в руководящих принципах форума (звено щелчка на вершине этого форума). Лучший путь состоит в том, чтобы связаться с webmasters и спросить разрешение, или связаться с вашими друзьями конфиденциально и сообщить им относительно вашей страницы. И считая намерение, которого ваш форум был настроен (в конфликте с потоком webmasters), вышеупомянутое netiquette обращается даже больше.

2. КОПИРОВАНИЕ РАСПОЛОЖЕНИЯ
Настраивая webpage или форум это - хорошая идея, чтобы выбрать ваши собственные цвета и графику, чтобы отличить это от других вебсайтов или форумов.
Если Вы не имеете разрешение, не используйте удар головой места от другого вебсайта. Если Вы хотите связаться с местом есть ususally баннеры и кнопки с этой целью. Это - также плохая идея, чтобы скопировать кого - то еще в отношениях к цветам и графическому обоснованию. Копируя кого - то, elses расположение создает впечатление, что ваша страница - часть места, которое Вы копируете - в этом случае DUF. Кроме того, на оригинальную графику на вебсайте обеспечивают авторское право владельцы места или оригинальные создатели.

3. КОПИРОВАНИЕ ПОСТОВ ФОРУМА
Никогда не скопируйте посты с других форумов, если Вы не имеете разрешение от авторов., мы надеемся, Вы действительно получали разрешение - если так, это - вся польза.

4. ПОВСЮДУ IMPRESSON и ВЫРАЖЕНИЕ
Если Вы хотите остаться друзья с местом, это - хорошая идея, чтобы не использовать насмешку или саркастический тон о том месте и его членах на вашем месте - например как предложение этого Вы - "взрослые" и "истинные болельщики" на вашем форуме (который является understod, поскольку мы не взрослые или истинные болельщики на этом форуме). Пожалуйста также прочитайте мой последний параграф о языке.

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Наконец, я хотел прокомментировать то, что заставило Вас настроить ваш форум во-первых. Кажется, что это неясно к Вам (и возможно другие также), почему владельцы DUF положили конец постам критика AGOS, сделанным несколькими членами, или поскольку Вы называете это, "приглушил" Вас (который является саркастическим способом поместить это, btw).

Никто не запрещается критическому анализу фильмы RDJ на этом правлении, никто когда-либо не был принудительным, чтобы любить все его проекты и всегда быть свободным выразить это в почтительном поместье. Вещью, против которой webmasters возразил, было постоянное повторение critisism и резким способом, которым это иногда выражалось. Как так многие передо мной уже сказали, мы услышали Вас в первый раз таким образом нет никакой потребности к повторите каждый раз, кто - то говорит, что они любили кино. Делая так, это может быть замечено как являющийся спорным в противоположность только разделению вашей (почтительной) точки зрения. Видишь?

Я подозреваю, во все это, есть также что - то вроде проблемы с языком и как мы выражаемся. Лично, я иногда нахожу, что это трудно понимает Вас и мог бы неправильно понять время от времени. Когда я читал некоторые из ваших постов, я обнаруживаю тон насмешки - значение ваших слов в себе вежливо, но способ, которым они выражены, предлагает что - то еще. Может быть Вы не подразумеваете это тот путь, и это происходит все из-за проблем с английским языком. Считание этого форума имеет членов очень многих наций, обязано быть недоразумениями.

Лучший из удачи с вашим форумом!

Country Sweden

Age (opt) 50

Re: to Elena

Oh, Susanne, you're WONDERFUL!

Country Guatemala

Age (opt) 51

Re: to Elena

Elena
I am sorry, your post is surely very good but too long for me, considering my language problems. So I thank you for trying to help. But we'd come to agreement already. All right.


Elena, Hopefully NOW You understand with the RUSSIAN translation Susanne has provided... Although, I don't get that you dont understand with all the posts you wrote in great length in English on this very board. Your sarcasm is not wasted on me, all right!!

I've also sent you ANOTHER email asking you to remove all that you have taken without our permission and with NO AGREEMENT ever made between you, me and DrSues. If it goes unanswered I will post it here. I don't think you really want that but I will if I have to.

Country USA MDR

Age (opt) Roberts

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Elena,

I'm very upset that you have LIED to Susanne by telling her we had an agreement. We had NO AGREEMENT about the stuff she addressed! When, I ask? WHEN did we make an agreement with you?

Im telling you AGAIN, You need to remove our banners from your website. It's against the law to use others copyrights without permission. All of which we DID NOT EVER GIVE YOU and you NEVER ASKED! You went and made your own website using our links n banners and not once did you contact me or DrSues. You stole from our boards forum and are advertising your site and using us free of charge. I was hoping by now you would have responded or come to us and asked politely for all you have already taken. Also you have copied our color format and are taking quotes from our posters. You never did ask permission for ANY OF THIS either. There have been multiple offenses.

I know even in your Russian language you UNDERSTAND what I'm saying and you know what Susanne was saying as well. Don't play dumb. Ive seen the long post you make about Roberts movies in our english language so I know you can comprehend better than what you say you can. You are a grown woman acting severely out of term. You need to fix this before it gets any more out of hand and goes any further.

And by the way, the only thing that we were in agreement with is that you were allowed to remain on our forum if you STOPPED repeatedly offending people by constantly bashing Roberts films that you didn't like. You have caused way too many problems for us and our followers and it will not be tolerated.

If you've mistaken DrSues wishing you good luck on your own forum as an agreement to steal from us you are sadly mistaken.

You will be banned AGAIN and we will report you if you continue to blatantly steal from us and the members of DUF. This ENDS NOW!

ENOUGH!!!!!!!

Gina Betters
Co-Owner DUF

Country USA Marina Del Rey/Hollywood

Age (opt) Roberts

Re: to Elena

Susanne


I suspect, in all of this, there's also a bit of a problem with language and how we express ourselves. Personally, I sometimes find it hard to understand you and might misunderstand from time to time. When I read some of your posts I detect a mocking tone - meaning your words in themselves are polite but the way they are expressed suggests something else. Maybe you don't mean it that way and it is all due to problems with the English language. Considering this forum has members of so many nationalities, it's bound to be misunderstandings.

Best of luck with your forum!



Thank you very much Susanne! I think that your post was necessary here after all that happened, and to give support to the new webmasters. You've expressed very well in this part what I wanted to say to Elena, but because of my poor English I couldn't. Is this sarcastic tone what I can't stand.

Country Barcelona (Spain)

Age (opt) 30

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I don't think you were harsh at all! the tone here has always been good-natured, then all of a sudden there were these people attacking anyone who said they loved AGOS, and even sneaking attacks on Robert. That's just not cool.
Personally, I'll defend Robert and root for him even if I don't like a movie 'cause he's bound to be great in it. He gives so much of himself in each role, both physically and mentally, that he's a joy to watch.

Country Guatemala

Age (opt) 51

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Totalmente de acuerdo con tus palabras!

Country Argentina

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Gabriela
Totalmente de acuerdo con tus palabras!


Thank you for agreeing with our words Gabriela and the rest of you too... xo

Country USA Marina Del Rey/Hollywood

Age (opt) Roberts

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Thanks!

Country Barcelona (Spain)

Age (opt) 30

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I can understand your frustration. This board exists first and foremost to share our positive thoughts and feelings about Robert.
But I have to admit that I really liked the discussions about the second Holmes movie. I don't know another place where I could share and argue my point of view with fellow RDJ fans.
Since I already wrote some quite lenghty reply to one of the now locked threads and can't post it anymore I hope it's ok when I just ask fellow members to email me, if they want to further discuss it.
Keep up the good work you both are doing with this board! I really appreciate to have such a nice community :)

Country Germany

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Oh THANK YOU!! I have been waiting for somebody to do something about this. Now I can truly enjoy being on DUF without having to worry about people continually saying how much they hate AGOS over and OVER without just moving on!!

Country USA

Age (opt) 14

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One more question:

I would like to open a new topic where everyone can share their favourite scenes of A Game of Shadows.
Would this be ok with you or do you think it would be better to give it some piece for a while?

Country Germany

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Dr Sues, Gina,

Ok, No problem.

Sorry, folks.

I'll make peace with you and all the fans here.

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hello
agree with you, this forum is to enjoy your work
of course they are entitled to not tolerate this kind of people.
and thank you Gina and DrSues to rescue this page and continue by joining us.

by the way am very close to six years watching and visiting this beautiful page first as DU and now DUF!!!

xoxo
clau

Country Mexico

Age (opt) 30

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thank you very much. i comepletely agree. telling one's opinion is enough if it is done one time we do get it after that.

Age (opt) 23

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Thank you so much Dr. Sues and GinaB!

We should try to keep this a positive place, there's too much negativity in the world already.

Country USA

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Oh, thank you for this! I mean, anyone is entitled to their opinion but some of the posts were filled with so much anger...!
Anyway, I totally support this and promise not to feed the fire by responding to those posts in the first place.
And just want to add that I absolutely love Robert's take on Holmes and Stark.

Country Guatemala

Age (opt) 51

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Thank you so much for saying this! I agree 100 per cent.
I have been staying out of the fight but I really felt the same way and it was bothering me quite a bit because I really like this site!

I'm so glad we can move on now :)

Country Canada

Age (opt) 13

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i would just like to say thank you for clarifying what can be said on this message board re: robert and his work.

i found this site to be most informative and the people are very nice to talk to as well!

in fact the only time i felt sad was when i stated that i had seen AGOS a few times and someone asked if i had the mentality of a ten year old. definitely a troll.

anyway keep up the good work. love what you are doing.

cheers
fiona

Country australia

Age (opt) only as old as the person next to you in bed!

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I'm proud to say I saw AGOS five times!!! And because of Iron Man, I'm one of the best clients at a local comic book store, too.
And I don't have the mentality of a 10-year old; I just enjoy life!!

Country Guatemala

Age (opt) 51

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Lisbeth
I'm proud to say I saw AGOS five times!!! And because of Iron Man, I'm one of the best clients at a local comic book store, too.
And I don't have the mentality of a 10-year old; I just enjoy life!!


I saw it 4 times and want to see it again already XD, and I just love what you said, it's not being childish it's enjoying life and enjoying the work of my hero! =)

Country Mexico

Age (opt) 23

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DrSues,

One more thing. I'm not being rude or sarcastic. I'm serious. You can delete all my posts, if you want. I won't get upset about that. I won't be angry with you or Gina. It's your right. It's your board. The decision is yours. I might come here to read posts when I have time but I won't post here any more.

Take care

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Virginie
DrSues,

One more thing. I'm not being rude or sarcastic. I'm serious. You can delete all my posts, if you want. I won't get upset about that. I won't be angry with you or Gina. It's your right. It's your board. The decision is yours. I might come here to read posts when I have time but I won't post here any more.

Take care


Virginie,
Thank you for understanding our point of view.
And you are welcome to post here anytime as long as you follow our guidelines. Whatever your decision - Good luck and God bless!
DrSues

Country Arizona - USA

Age (opt) a few more than Robert

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THANK YOU SO MUCH, DrSues. There are so much sad things in this world and so much negative thinking people. And this site is my little private paradise. Everyday I’m on this page, but since a few weeks I felt really sad about all this comments. Now I hope, I can truly enjoy this forum as I always have before…

Country Switzerland

Age (opt) 41

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sguppi
There are so much sad things in this world and so much negative thinking people. And this site is my little private paradise.


what a beautiful way of putting it sguppi. That's exactly how I feel. Well done Gina and DrSues for maintaining the quality and integrity of this site. I love you girls. xxx

Country United Kingdom

Age (opt) 35

Re: Important Announcement from the Owners of DUF

Yes, that is it.

Let's enjoy this increadable work done by Gina and Dr Sues.

Lovely site.
Lovely people.
Lovely Robert.

Country Brasil

Age (opt) 43

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I just hope fans stop fighting over silly things.

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i'm glad!we don't need trolls here.Respect for robert nothing more.

Country FRANCE

Age (opt) 26

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DrSues (Administrator)
Recently we have had a problem with a few people being argumentative and overly criticizing Robert.

This is a “Fan Site” for Robert Downey Jr. This means it is here to support Robert and to celebrate his talent. For folks who love him and his work to gather and enjoy. It is NOT a place to tear him down, criticize or bash him in any way.

Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I myself could make a list of Robert’s movies that I thought were “beneath” him. Some I didn’t enjoy at all, other than watching him. But I would rather concentrate on the many great ones!

For those who did not enjoy “A Game of Shadows” – you are welcome to say so (respectfully) and why you didn’t like it. (ONCE)
Calling Robert a “clown” or “buffoon” or any other type of disrespect will not be tolerated.

And when another person posts their opinion – that they enjoyed the movie immensely – that does NOT mean you should re-state your criticism all over again! That is being argumentative and will NOT be tolerated.
Thank you!
Gina & DrSues


Enough said on this issue and I for one am glad this topic is finally put to rest. THANK YOU!!!!!

Country USA

Age (opt) One Year Older

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*A quick note to Elena*
Your recent post was deleted because you were ONCE AGAIN argumentative and rude. (And wrong)
If your attitude continues, ALL your posts will be deleted.

Country Arizona - USA

Age (opt) a few more than Robert

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Dr Sues,

As I've sad in my replay I completely agree with you.

I've just send a post to Elena because, she answer me, as soon as i wrotte to this site telling about the premier im Rio de Janeiro. I haven't read any other elena's post, nor before nor after.

She suggested "Let's be friend, your words were so kind".

I'm reporting this cause I've just seen you replay to my post.

God, I wish we have no problems. i've already change emails with other fã and it was so nice. sometimes we need a person who undesrtand what mens to be a real fã.

I hope Elena and not anyone bring troubles for you. Your job is so beatiful. So important. you should not be importunated at all. Give you all my support.

I'm proud of this site. And I'm sure Robert is greatfull.

I just don't know a thing, since the post deleted by administratiom "Rumors".

I'm finishing my master degree and It's not possible to participate frequently in this days.

Again, nice job, the fans needs it you cam be sure.

Have a great time.
Ana
Ps sorry for my bad english. I promiss I'll improvi it.

Country Brasil

Age (opt) 43

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Dr Sues and fellows

Just to say "I agree completely" and I wish this people stop being so boring. It's so easy to understand, It's a fã site. The best. I Love it.

Not comming too much here cause I'm very busy.

Wish everyone all the best.

Ana

Country Brasil

Age (opt) 43

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Thanks Dr Sues and Gina for handling this so well ... there are way to many wonderful and happy Downey subjects to discuss .... there shouldn't be arguing and anger. We are here because we love Robert and all that he represents.

Country Walnut Creek, Calif USA

Re: Important Announcement from the Owners of DUF

I am sad but it will be a good bye. Seeing the direction this board was taking I worried this would happen, but I was hoping things would calm down and that I still could enjoy my visits to DU. I first thought to not post after this "owners" post but seeing everybody agreeing I decided that, at least someone express her personal feelings even (or because) they are not in the same way.
It seems that I am the only one around to feel that the "owners" post is so unpleasant and unwelcoming. It clearly express that persons who come here not to show their "celebration" in the SAME way than theirs have not anymore their place on DU and would be not "tolerated". Sorry, but this is so narrow-mind and goes against what DU had been along the years, a very tolerant and open place where everyone caring about Downey could come whatever their degree of "devotion" was.
I didn't see the problem that some posters "dare" to discuss and confront views and thoughts on a movie( come on it is only a movie!). I thought it was normal to have personal thoughts and to share them here. I even find it interesting and I read these threads with curiosity and attention. It is so refreshing to read discussion between mature people who have ideas/opinions/arguments. But, it had been take as a crime, an offense to RDJ to even dislike one of his movie!!! And the "owners" decide to call this negative and to ban debate if they don't go on their way! Some poster even talk about "cleaning" the "troll". So who are the "rude" persons here, where is the hostility? The ones who only want to debate or the ones who ban and bash them? Does this board would be only about "so essential" subjects than competing on how many RDJ pictures you have or how many times you see a movie, or the adventures on the new Iphone of another? Does the only vocabulary allowed should only be "awesome" "fantastic" "great" and not to forget the indispensable "cannot wait". You see what shocked me a lot more than people arguing about a movie is when someone start a post by "OUR" baby speaking about the future Downey baby, I feel it is very disrespectful to RDJ, that is what is intolerable to me.

I have been a follower to DU since 2003 (nearly 10 years now!) and if I rarely posted I came quite every day. I had a great time coming to DU and I have so good memories of all this years. I was so pleased by the good spirit and the high standard Susanne & Susan kept to this place. I don't remember them banning any discussion unless it would be offending to RDJ private person and I don't remember Susanne being so threatening and harsh than the new administrator toward posters. Quite opposite, I always praised their open mind and tolerance. DU had been a friendly community where people express their support, admiration, affection, whatever you call it, to Downey but with so much kindness, sense of humor and above all dignity and respect. They success to make of DU a special place that was not a "usual" fan site, far away from frantic or exhilarated behaviors and that why I came and stay around. But this time is over.
One last thing, it looks that many newcomers don't know that this site had been created by Suzanne & Susan and all the credit of what you find on DU goes to them, and I thank them a last time for their wonderful job, they were the true hearth of DU.
This post is a way too long, I know, but DU had been a little secret place to me all this years, and I am a little disenchanted and sad.
Okay, move on ! It is time to leave and to let you, guys, just among yourselves, as you seem so must prefer.
Au revoir

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Hello, everyone!
I agree with the majority: there shouldn't be so much argumentative and negative posts! The magic of this site for me has always been that everybody is so kind to each other and so respectful to Robert, besides, of course the tons and tons of information on his work. This topic about AGOS had been interesting at first, but after a while it became tiresome and made me really uncomfortable to read so many negative opinions, repeated SO MANY TIMES! Honestly, we are here to celebrate RDJ's work, not to hate it! If you didn't like it, say so, but don't bore us with it again and again! Don't ruin the joy of the others! It's sad that some people feel that they should leave, DrSues and Gina just want peace on their site, I think.

Country Hungary

Age (opt) 35

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Christine
Hello, everyone!
I agree with the majority: there shouldn't be so much argumentative and negative posts! The magic of this site for me has always been that everybody is so kind to each other and so respectful to Robert, besides, of course the tons and tons of information on his work. This topic about AGOS had been interesting at first, but after a while it became tiresome and made me really uncomfortable to read so many negative opinions, repeated SO MANY TIMES! Honestly, we are here to celebrate RDJ's work, not to hate it! If you didn't like it, say so, but don't bore us with it again and again! Don't ruin the joy of the others! It's sad that some people feel that they should leave, DrSues and Gina just want peace on their site, I think.


Christine, PERFECT! I couldn't have said it better or more eloquently. If anyone wants to know how I felt about all this drama here on DUF, then there it is in a nutshell. I could have elaborated MANY times but chose to let it ride in hopes it wouldnt require me to speak up. It's all we want is for this site to continue on as it always has, with respect full circle for Robert and all of you who join us here on our Forum. Thank you Christine, you totally made my day turn from sadness to pure joy... Xoxo

Country USA

Age (opt) Roberts

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GinaB(admin/moderator)
Christine
Hello, everyone!
I agree with the majority: there shouldn't be so much argumentative and negative posts! The magic of this site for me has always been that everybody is so kind to each other and so respectful to Robert, besides, of course the tons and tons of information on his work. This topic about AGOS had been interesting at first, but after a while it became tiresome and made me really uncomfortable to read so many negative opinions, repeated SO MANY TIMES! Honestly, we are here to celebrate RDJ's work, not to hate it! If you didn't like it, say so, but don't bore us with it again and again! Don't ruin the joy of the others! It's sad that some people feel that they should leave, DrSues and Gina just want peace on their site, I think.


Christine, PERFECT! I couldn't have said it better or more eloquently. If anyone wants to know how I felt about all this drama here on DUF, then there it is in a nutshell. I could have elaborated MANY times but chose to let it ride in hopes it wouldnt require me to speak up. It's all we want is for this site to continue on as it always has, with respect full circle for Robert and all of you who join us here on our Forum. Thank you Christine, you totally made my day turn from sadness to pure joy... Xoxo


Thank you, Gina for the compliment! You know, it made my day, too, because I've never been confident enough about my English. And you are welcome!

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Age (opt) 35

Re: Important Announcement from the Owners of DUF

Hi all. I have enjoyed visiting this site over several years but never posted here as I work in the industry. I stopped visiting a week or so ago when this rivalry got to be so acute. I have enjoyed reading many discussions here in the past, and what I like is the site is open-minded and open-hearted and a celebration of Robert Downey Jr's life and work. My impression is that if we see one of his films and feel disappointed for whatever reason, it's OK to say so and say why, but not to force other people to our point of view. Personally I trust Robert's judgment as to what projects serve him best and I look forward to them all. I want to commend the moderators for handling this touchy situation so well.

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RmcN
Hi all. I have enjoyed visiting this site over several years but never posted here as I work in the industry. I stopped visiting a week or so ago when this rivalry got to be so acute. I have enjoyed reading many discussions here in the past, and what I like is the site is open-minded and open-hearted and a celebration of Robert Downey Jr's life and work. My impression is that if we see one of his films and feel disappointed for whatever reason, it's OK to say so and say why, but not to force other people to our point of view. Personally I trust Robert's judgment as to what projects serve him best and I look forward to them all. I want to commend the moderators for handling this touchy situation so well.


This is my first post here also... I have enjoyed this incredible site for some time.
RmcN, I guess some good came out of all this rivalry in that it has sparked a desire in us both to come forward and be heard As someone who has enjoyed watch Robert's work year after year, I agree in trusting his judgment in which roles suit him best. And if for some reason I were to go see a film I didn't particularly care for (has never happened) .. I at least got to enjoy seeing one of my favorite actors at work.
Thanks for letting me give my 2 cents
And Thanks to the two wonderful mods.. You have done an outstanding job with trying to keep peace. I know it's not always easy.

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Re: Important Announcement from the Owners of DUF

I have to agree with Christine. She said it perfectly!

The first two times I posted here I got very discouraging responses. Especially being told several times why AGOS was no good and even having one person say it was a bad movie (stated more as fact than his opinion) and a failure at the box office which turned out not to be true at all.

I was really surprised because it was not what I expected at all and although I respect different opinions I felt it was just constantly repeated when it had already been said and discussed.

I am glad I continued to post though because the majority of posters are amazing, even if we disagree ;)

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Age (opt) 13

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I doubt the site owners enjoyed taking this decision. They didn't stop the discussions till some people started to get nasty.
It's just a matter of mutual respect, I think. If I start a thread and nobody answers, then that's a sign that no one is interested. I'm not gonna go and butt into other threads and tell others they're wrong simply because they don't think like me. I certainly wouldn't use insults to make my point.

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Age (opt) 51

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Hi,
I new to this fan site.But I have been always a very Big Fan of Robert Downey Jr. and I just love his work very very much,he is a Fantastic actor,no matter what movie he does..i always watch his movie just to see him...if the movie is bad an all...but his acting is always the best.
I could also make some list of his movies which was not up to the mark...but i will never ever,even in my dreams can utter any bad words against him.

And this is a very good fan site that i came across of Robert Downey Jr. and from now on i will be a regular viewer of this site.Keep up the good work guyz.
Thanking You
Best Wishes
Nina

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Age (opt) 30

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Elena
I'd never say any word against HIM, Nina. It's fantazies of admins. They made me a only target for their activity here. God knows why.



I think admins have things to do other than MAKE YOU THE ONLY TARGET FOR THEIR ACTIVITY HERE.
Oh c'mon, please!!!
And if you feel this way, i don't get why you still hang around here. Internet is a big world.

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Age (opt) 37

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Nina
Hi,
I new to this fan site.But I have been always a very Big Fan of Robert Downey Jr. and I just love his work very very much,he is a Fantastic actor,no matter what movie he does..i always watch his movie just to see him...if the movie is bad an all...but his acting is always the best.
I could also make some list of his movies which was not up to the mark...but i will never ever,even in my dreams can utter any bad words against him.

And this is a very good fan site that i came across of Robert Downey Jr. and from now on i will be a regular viewer of this site.Keep up the good work guyz.
Thanking You
Best Wishes
Nina


Welcome to DUF Nina, My apologies for the KOOK who responded to your very innocent and sweet post. We have been working on cleaning house but unfortunately we still have some dirt that keeps reappearing. Please feel free to continue commenting on any thread that interest you. We are happy you are here with us.

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