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You haven't dealt with the evidence for the whale sequence yet, and I am okay talking about bird transitionals. However, as I have trying to explain to you since the start of the whale sequence discussions, you need to look at species in relation to each other to understand their natural history. I think that is the basis of your problem understanding evolution.

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Not in your wildest dreams. - by Arneson - Aug 30, 2007 9:54pm
We have fossil whales. - by Arneson - Aug 29, 2007 8:46am
Sherwin seems a bit shady on dates here. - by Arneson - Aug 29, 2007 8:51am
Whale evolution fantasy - by whoisyourcreator - Aug 29, 2007 12:24pm
Sorry to hear about your dad. - by Arneson - Aug 30, 2007 3:32pm
Be specific - No drama necessary - by whoisyourcreator - Aug 30, 2007 3:21pm
Re: Be specific - No drama necessary - by Arneson - Aug 30, 2007 3:31pm
Is there something new? - by whoisyourcreator - Aug 30, 2007 4:22pm
One example from today - by Arneson - Aug 30, 2007 10:24pm
You could try something new? - by Arneson - Aug 30, 2007 10:28pm