This will be my last say on this, my opinion..... Dwain is the best in the buisness as Texas points are concerned,He is a Knapper in his own right and has put his time in teaching the art. I believe that Flo Town with his knowledge of the art of Knapping could also put his name on a few points. all I know is shapes, and that gets me close, but the intricate details will ALWAYS elude me. The art of finding them, Are my PASSION...